Full Version: I'M MAD too!
I was driving to the gym and passed a donut shop this a.m. Mind you, when I was overweight, I didn't eat donuts that often...but seeing the shop this a.m. made me mad. Here is a business that does nothing but sell crap food. AND IT IS SO DAMN GOOD. Made me mad. Had to share. That's MY beef today! Luckily, I ran off the anger and the experience is but a memory....
It is infuriating. If more people were like you, these place would go out of business. Even the low fatties would agree with us that doughnuts are FAT PILLS, though for different reasons.
Actually, there is hope. The Krispy Kreme near us went out of business a couple of years ago. Another doughnut shop opened in its place and quickly went out of business. Now that place is vacant. I say good riddance!!! Maybe they'll tear it down.
Some of the local, family-owned doughnut shops sell kolaches and croisants, which are great if you don't eat the bread. One place even has made-to-order breakfast tacos. I just don't eat the tortilla. (No more apple fritters though.)
In this sugar & starch-filled society, you have to learn to adapt.
Actually, there is hope. The Krispy Kreme near us went out of business a couple of years ago. Another doughnut shop opened in its place and quickly went out of business. Now that place is vacant. I say good riddance!!! Maybe they'll tear it down.
Some of the local, family-owned doughnut shops sell kolaches and croisants, which are great if you don't eat the bread. One place even has made-to-order breakfast tacos. I just don't eat the tortilla. (No more apple fritters though.)
In this sugar & starch-filled society, you have to learn to adapt.
And we know what's happening to Krispy Kreme now, don't we? 
I'm not going to get angry or celebrate when they go out of business.
If people in our society ate well (low carb) the majority of the time and reserved sweets for the rare treat, it wouldn't be a problem. Instead, that occasional sugary treat becomes a full time way of life and sugar creeps into every part of our diet. I "cheat" twice a year. I reserve those rare cheats for a really, really decadent desert and stay on the straight and narrow the rest of the year and it works for me. I'm okay with that. It doesn't cause any weight gain and it doesn't send me spiraling back into high carb eating. It's all about the choices we make.
If people in our society ate well (low carb) the majority of the time and reserved sweets for the rare treat, it wouldn't be a problem. Instead, that occasional sugary treat becomes a full time way of life and sugar creeps into every part of our diet. I "cheat" twice a year. I reserve those rare cheats for a really, really decadent desert and stay on the straight and narrow the rest of the year and it works for me. I'm okay with that. It doesn't cause any weight gain and it doesn't send me spiraling back into high carb eating. It's all about the choices we make.
I know the feeling- I just wish the donut shops and their ilk would convert to El Pollo Loco franchises,Mongolian Grills, etc..... and would it KILL them to build a Trader joes in my town?
It's pretty sad when the only place that safe to eat on my way home are bunless fast food cheeseburgers and 7-11 hot dogs ( so tasty but that much salt can't be good!)
It's pretty sad when the only place that safe to eat on my way home are bunless fast food cheeseburgers and 7-11 hot dogs ( so tasty but that much salt can't be good!)
Seriously I live near two Tim Hortons and go in almost every morning for my steeped tea before work and I have no problems looking at all those donuts knowing that if I eat one, I will have a headache.
It doesn't bother me anymore.
It doesn't bother me anymore.
Doughnuts are always on hand at the station. People think the way to say thank you around here is with a couple of dozen. It used to be really hard for me to avoid them, and I would open the box and breath it in every now and then, and I would get pretty ticked off about not being able to eat one, now it is not such a problem, and I even made a point of selling my shares of KK stock earlier this year 
Well, thanks to donuts, I arrived at my highest lifetime weight at the end of June of this year. July 1st I started low-carb and haven't looked back. I've been 'donut-free' ever since. And three months later I'm feelin' great about it.
I now call myself 'The Former Donut Junkie', and have even started my own blog, called Life Without Donuts. It's actually a 'low-carb' information and inspiration blog and my personal journey from Donut Addict to reaching my 100 pound weight loss goal.
Yes, donuts are totally a non-nutrient food, but they will kill you! And yes, just like with most other sugar laden 'treats', most of us cannot stop with just eating one occasionally. I have somewhat of an 'addictive/compulsive' personality, so the only success I can have is by not EVER touching them again...forever!
Just as Dr. Atkins said, "this just one taste rationalization is the kiss of death for this way of eating." And I know it would be that way for me, so that's why I pass Dunkin' and Krispy Kreme like I don't even see 'em. I can eat donuts if I want to...I just don't want to any more. They just don't work for me!
There Really Is Life Without Donuts!
I now call myself 'The Former Donut Junkie', and have even started my own blog, called Life Without Donuts. It's actually a 'low-carb' information and inspiration blog and my personal journey from Donut Addict to reaching my 100 pound weight loss goal.
Yes, donuts are totally a non-nutrient food, but they will kill you! And yes, just like with most other sugar laden 'treats', most of us cannot stop with just eating one occasionally. I have somewhat of an 'addictive/compulsive' personality, so the only success I can have is by not EVER touching them again...forever!
Just as Dr. Atkins said, "this just one taste rationalization is the kiss of death for this way of eating." And I know it would be that way for me, so that's why I pass Dunkin' and Krispy Kreme like I don't even see 'em. I can eat donuts if I want to...I just don't want to any more. They just don't work for me!
There Really Is Life Without Donuts!
Sometimes I go to Krispy Kreme with my friends. They buy donuts and I just stand there and breath in the air. The aroma of the coffee mixed with the smell of the sweet donuts is sinful and lovely. But that's enough for me now, I'm not even tempted anymore. One time I was really depressed and went and got an entire dozen donuts with every intention of eating every last one. I ate two got sick and threw the rest away. So, not too many donuts in this girl's future. I may get lynched for this, but wishing bad on the donut shops is like wishing all the bars would go out of business because some people can't control themselves. It always comes back to the personal responsibility issue. Some people are blessed with a metabolism that can handle the donuts, we just are not.
| QUOTE (melodiegale @ Sep 18 2007, 08:47 PM) |
| Sometimes I go to Krispy Kreme with my friends. They buy donuts and I just stand there and breath in the air. The aroma of the coffee mixed with the smell of the sweet donuts is sinful and lovely. But that's enough for me now, I'm not even tempted anymore. One time I was really depressed and went and got an entire dozen donuts with every intention of eating every last one. I ate two got sick and threw the rest away. So, not too many donuts in this girl's future. I may get lynched for this, but wishing bad on the donut shops is like wishing all the bars would go out of business because some people can't control themselves. It always comes back to the personal responsibility issue. Some people are blessed with a metabolism that can handle the donuts, we just are not. |
Thank you for once again being the voice of reason. You know I am also a fan of personal responsibility.
I'm trying to understand this philosophy a lot of you have about personal responsibility?
Please explain it to me?
Is this some sort of conervative philosophy thing?
Please explain it to me?
Is this some sort of conervative philosophy thing?
It's a simple one Dave, our lives are the sum total of the decisions we make. Now that being said that does not include things we don't have control over which would be birth defects, illnesses that are not "lifestyle" related, and "acts of God" of course this is not an all inclusive list. I guess I'm going to get off on a rant here, but I'm not for "cradle to the grave protection" by way of lawsuits and the resulting laws that come from such lawsuits. With governmental protection always comes loss of personal rights and the freedom to choose. As an example while donuts may not be good for me, I don't want the government to make that decision for me. If I eat the donuts to excess then that was a personal decision and if it makes me fat than so be it, but at least I had the choice and I'm going to step up and say, "I brought it on myself" by my decision to eat too many donuts. Same thing for drugs, drinking, overspending and the like. Just my opinion and as they say, "everybody's got one".
| QUOTE (Dave @ Sep 18 2007, 09:19 PM) |
Is this some sort of conervative philosophy thing? |
It's a real shame that something as basic as personal responsibility (being responsible for ones actions) should be viewed as a political philosophy....but unfortunately, there is some truth to that idea.
Melodie did a good job summing it up. There is not a single person on this board who gained weight because of anything other than the food WE put in our mouths.
| QUOTE (Taoschick @ Sep 19 2007, 04:12 PM) |
| It's a real shame that something as basic as personal responsibility (being responsible for ones actions) should be viewed as a political philosophy....but unfortunately, there is some truth to that idea. |
But what we are talking about is people interacting with each other, which essentially is a 'political' matter.
When I say political, I mean in terms of social interaction. Like 'office politics' that sort of thing.
Please don't think I am trying to start trouble guys. If anything, I think it's a 'cultural gap'. So many things are said by people overseas, they aren't really as impactful here in OZ.
I am simply trying to understand.
I am also about 'social justice' and 'social equity'. I see so much of that stuff in my society that it gets me mad. Racism, bigotry, fat hate, tall hate, Sexism.
We don't sue as many people down here.....but like with everything I'm sure we get around to copying the USA. I think Sydney and the state of NSW are the leaders in our country.
| QUOTE (Dave @ Sep 19 2007, 12:40 AM) |
I am also about 'social justice' and 'social equity'. I see so much of that stuff in my society that it gets me mad. Racism, bigotry, fat hate, tall hate, Sexism. |
It's all a part of human nature. It's existed since humans came on the scene and it'll be there long after we're dust. Not all bigotry is bad....as evidenced by your own dislike of racists, etc...
I believe you're interested in fairness....which is a laudable goal but one that can never be met. You're never going to change human nature but you can treat others fairly in your own dealings with them.
| QUOTE (melodiegale @ Sep 18 2007, 09:47 PM) |
| Sometimes I go to Krispy Kreme with my friends. They buy donuts and I just stand there and breath in the air. The aroma of the coffee mixed with the smell of the sweet donuts is sinful and lovely. But that's enough for me now, I'm not even tempted anymore. One time I was really depressed and went and got an entire dozen donuts with every intention of eating every last one. I ate two got sick and threw the rest away. So, not too many donuts in this girl's future. I may get lynched for this, but wishing bad on the donut shops is like wishing all the bars would go out of business because some people can't control themselves. It always comes back to the personal responsibility issue. Some people are blessed with a metabolism that can handle the donuts, we just are not. |
Melodie,
Neat story. The moral of the story is, 'you don't throw away your friends just because they want to go to a donut shop for coffee and donuts and a have a little get together'. You go with them and enjoy the friends and forget the donuts and don't make a big deal out of not eating donuts anymore.
I wouldn't have a bit of a problem stopping by Dunkin' for coffee with a few of my friends if that's where everyone wanted to go. I'd drink their coffee and leave their donuts alone! The cravings are gone and I have resisted other equally tempting treats without a problem. I haven't become a hater of Donut Shops just because donuts made me fat. As you said, it was my own personal choice to sit there and overeat donuts day after day, week after week until I swelled up like a beach ball. I knew full well what I was doing and no one else made buy them or put them in my mouth.
I am very involved in church and that is where my largest circle of friends are. We often have social get-togethers which include meals and/or snacks. I didn't quit getting together with them just because I'm low-carbing now. And I don't make a big deal out of it. Even if there's little or no low-carb food I still go and happily participate without whining. I never even mention I'm doing low-carb unless someone asks me how I've lost the weight or something like that. Lots of folks have 'some kind' of eating plan they follow, but they just don't discuss it or make it sound like it's some kind of cult or religion.
Matter of fact, I hate it when folks make a 'big deal' or 'issue' out of whats being served at 'get-together' dinners like that. The worst line is when someone whines, "there's nothing here I can eat." It's like everyone should cater to their way of eating or lifestyle or everyone should know exactly what to bring to make them happy. It's about friends! It's about friends getting together and having fun and enjoying each other! It's not even about the food!
Anyway, I don't wish all the donut stores would go out of business. Like you said, there are folks who can eat a donut occasionally and walk away unscathed. Not a problem. For me, I don't want to get started on them again, for I know how I am around them. But that doesn't mean everyone else is like that.
We could say forks or spoons made us fat. We could even ban them! Would that solve our 'fat' problem? Absolutely not! We still have fingers! It's all about personal responsibility!!!
Whew....I'm glad that rant is over...and I'll bet you all are too!
Ron, aka The Former Donut Junkie
Good rant Ron. Rants are good for the soul! And we have managed to do it with civility.
Dave - Yes, I must take into consideration you are living in a slightly different culture although I wouldn't think too different as we all have English roots. Our legal system has gone absolutely mad over here to the point of peril in some cases. Laws that protect inequities and unfair trade practices as in charging one person one thing and another something else are needed and believe me we have a lot of them. It is not a racial issue I am speaking of. We are not living in Uganda or Haiti or somewhere like that. We are living in quite a rich country where opportunities abound for everyone, so if you can't make it here you probably can't make it anywhere.
I agree with Taoschick and I think what she was getting at is there is no such thing as total equality. We can start off on the bottom of the heap because of an "accident of birth" as in being born with retardation or birth defects. That's why civilized societies take care of those less fortunate. In the beginning it was the responsibility of the churches and later on the government. If you are born healthy and normal in a country such as ours you can rise to any level you wish, and that is a matter of personal choice, the decisions you make, and responsibility.
Granted we don't all start off on a level playing field, but that is never going to change in our imperfect world, so we do the best with what we're given to work with.
As always that is just my personal opinion Dave, and I hope you know by now that I have the utmost respect for yours and your right to have one. Life would be so boring without debate, and debates serve a purpose besides arguing for the sake of arguing, they also educate and open one's mind to new ideas.
Dave - Yes, I must take into consideration you are living in a slightly different culture although I wouldn't think too different as we all have English roots. Our legal system has gone absolutely mad over here to the point of peril in some cases. Laws that protect inequities and unfair trade practices as in charging one person one thing and another something else are needed and believe me we have a lot of them. It is not a racial issue I am speaking of. We are not living in Uganda or Haiti or somewhere like that. We are living in quite a rich country where opportunities abound for everyone, so if you can't make it here you probably can't make it anywhere.
I agree with Taoschick and I think what she was getting at is there is no such thing as total equality. We can start off on the bottom of the heap because of an "accident of birth" as in being born with retardation or birth defects. That's why civilized societies take care of those less fortunate. In the beginning it was the responsibility of the churches and later on the government. If you are born healthy and normal in a country such as ours you can rise to any level you wish, and that is a matter of personal choice, the decisions you make, and responsibility.
Granted we don't all start off on a level playing field, but that is never going to change in our imperfect world, so we do the best with what we're given to work with.
As always that is just my personal opinion Dave, and I hope you know by now that I have the utmost respect for yours and your right to have one. Life would be so boring without debate, and debates serve a purpose besides arguing for the sake of arguing, they also educate and open one's mind to new ideas.
| QUOTE (melodiegale @ Sep 18 2007, 09:47 PM) |
| Sometimes I go to Krispy Kreme with my friends. They buy donuts and I just stand there and breath in the air. The aroma of the coffee mixed with the smell of the sweet donuts is sinful and lovely. But that's enough for me now, I'm not even tempted anymore. One time I was really depressed and went and got an entire dozen donuts with every intention of eating every last one. I ate two got sick and threw the rest away. So, not too many donuts in this girl's future. I may get lynched for this, but wishing bad on the donut shops is like wishing all the bars would go out of business because some people can't control themselves. It always comes back to the personal responsibility issue. Some people are blessed with a metabolism that can handle the donuts, we just are not. |
Melodie, I believe in a free market and agree that donut shops have a right to exist and try to profit. People have to make a living. However, I won't shed any tears if they go out of business. There are many successful donut shops out there and if one fails, the owners are responsible. There is no guarantee of success in a free market.
I fully believe in personnal responsibility. The Government has some responsibility for protecting you from harm by others, but should stop there. Even then, you can't fully depend on the Goverment and have to watch out for yourself. Protecting you from yourself is going way to far. It just creates a nanny state, which is just as bad as a police state. Both result in slavery to the state, which is NOT what the USA is all about.
Only when I took responsibility for what I put in my mouth did I have any success. Granted, I was deceived by the prevailing dietary dogma, but that is just another example of the nanny state in action. We would all be better off if the Government would get out of the nutrition business. I had to take responsibility for being informed and be willing to go against the grain (literally, since I eat few grains).
I don't like KK because all they serve is donuts. I like some of our local, family-owned donut shops because they also serve kolaches & croisants and usually have good coffee. I just don't eat the bread. The aroma is nice and I'm no longer tempted by donuts. It would be nice to have an occasional apple fritter, but I don't want it badly enough to mess up my blood sugar.
One donut shop has made-to-order breakfast tacos. I can get what I want on it and don't eat the tortilla.
Hi Renegade, who would have thought donuts would be such a hot political topic. LOL. We do agree then. Not liking donut shops and wanting to outlaw them are quite a different thing.
I just wanted to thank you while I had the chance for all the great contributions and information you continue to add to this forum.
I just wanted to thank you while I had the chance for all the great contributions and information you continue to add to this forum.
Melodie, you're welcome. Glad to contribute. I'm enjoying he forum.
Thank you for all your contributions too. Everyone here has made meaningful contributions. It's nice to have the support that is often lacking in the cold, cruel, sugar & starch-filled world.
Thank you for all your contributions too. Everyone here has made meaningful contributions. It's nice to have the support that is often lacking in the cold, cruel, sugar & starch-filled world.
We're happy to have YOU here too, Dan!
Wow! Great discussion! I was just mad I couldn't enjoy one consequence free.
I agree--why is it we thank with food? Doughnuts in particular. Same thing at the bank--we were always getting baked goods, etc., especially around the holidays, which is a whole other discussion.
I am all for personal responsibility. Cause equals effect. It's the way of life, whether we deny it or not.
I agree--why is it we thank with food? Doughnuts in particular. Same thing at the bank--we were always getting baked goods, etc., especially around the holidays, which is a whole other discussion.
I am all for personal responsibility. Cause equals effect. It's the way of life, whether we deny it or not.
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