Anyone doing the Meat and Egg Diet?
It's basically the full fat version of KE.
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| QUOTE (Dave @ Sep 30 2007, 11:45 PM) |
| Anyone doing the Meat and Egg Diet? It's basically the full fat version of KE. |
I'm thinking about it.
I'm having a rough time with this since K/E. I believe I've added too much food. I feel like I'm wanting to eat all day long, mostly snacky kind of eating. I've made Low Carb goodies, and I think that may be the problem. I'm not losing at all. I'm not gaining, either. I'm a nut for sweets and I've made the Coconut Oil fudge and eat it all day long, thinking I'm okay, cuz it's LC.
I feel so down in the dumps. I'm okay when I'm not sitting here thinking about LC and losing weight. When I'm out with friends, I'm fine, but get me back to thinking about what I can and can't eat, and I'm bummin'. Every single day I get on the scale and in over a month now, it hasn't moved at all. My clothes still fit the same. I'm not really into veggies, much, and if it were up to me, I'd have eggs, meat and dessert. Yeah, a good salad is great too, but I'm not thrilled about having to eat one every single day. If I go to a restaurant, I love a salad, and broccoli and cauliflower are good, but still..not every day.
Maybe I'm having a problem with too many choices?
Sigh. I need to find the diet (which MUST be LC) that fits me and works.
Lori
Lori...my sweet friend,
It hurts to see you so fractured and disoriented regarding your search for the perfect diet. But, maybe I'm being simple here, but--and don't scream at me--I don't see the problem. You've written on several threads that you were full of life, and balance, with a strong faith that you could finally reach your goal, when you were on Kimkins. But Lori, Heidi-Ho stole the life work of several low carb pioneers, and dumbed it down for the masses, then opened her mouth and began speaking in tongues, as if The Word had come straight from her brain, and out through her lips. But Lori...no sacriledge intended, we have all seen the Messiahs of low carbing--you can recite their names like a litinay of Saints, just as can we all--so, once we've been to the Mountain, why bum around with false prophets, like Kimmer.
Okay...you felt great on Kimkins. Why? What were you eating? Certainly not snacks all day. You were basically eating the Atkins Induction program. Look in your books, Girl...it's right there in black and white. Then compare what you find to the Kimmer diet in that infamous Womans' World issue...there it is, supposedly a joint venture between the dieticians at Women's World, and Kimmer, herself. I still have the torn out page on my fridge, and ther is nothing dangerous about it...until you start the inverse of if three ibuprofen is good, a dozen must be better.
Your rational seems to go something like this--if 1200 calories of low carbs makes me lose three pounds a week, 600 calories should up it to six. But ratios and proportions don't work that way...it's just not that simple. You don't buy the smug, threadbare MD's mantra, fewer calories than energy expended, in the amount of 3500 kilicals, results in a weight loss of one pound.So why believe that by cutting your calories to starvation portions, you can double your weight loss? Lori, losing three pounds a week is heroic--that's 144 pounds a year. Have you ever lost 144 pounds in a year, with the added bonus of learning how to keep it off? I know you haven't--you told me so. But after just several months on Kimkins, you seem to believe you could have lost 288 pounds, if you're going on the double it philosophy.
Lori, Why do you think Christin and Deni, and the other big time, rapid losers were chosen for the cover article in Women's World? Because their results weren't typical, because they were beautiful and personble, and intense, and sincere, and kind, and oh, so filled with the joy of success. They didn't sell Kimkin's to us...we bought it ourselves, every one of us, who wanted to have what they had. Did you read about any average losers, people losing 1 1/2, to three pounds a week? No. Then Kimkins wouldn't be a race horse diet, it would be a reliable old plow horse, like Weightwatchers. Remember how everyone bashed Weightwatchers, because we were losing so fast, and those weekly pilgims to the WW sites were barely losing a pound? Lori, what makes a scam work? It sels glamour, success, whatever...and it's so easy for the con artist like Kimmer, because we make ourselves the perfect target. We tell these crooks what we want, what we need, our heart's desire, then we're all astounded when they give it to us. All they are doing is refeeding us everything we said we'd ever wanted.
I'm no doctor, no psychiatriast, not a nutritionist, but back to my original question, Lori, buried somewhere back in all that rubble I've written, what is your problem? You want to be back in control, feel positive about yourself--then go back to the way you were eating at Kimkins...not the miniscule quantity...but the types of food. Quit cooking all the temptations, and go spartan with your eating. By that I mean, pick a few things that you like, and eat them by rote, evey day. Don't excite your taste buds, don't get your pancreas to leaking insulin like a sieve, drivng your hunger...don't eat for your sensory organs, eat for your brain...go on auto pilot. Think back, Lori...when you first began purging yourself, after you joined Kimkins. Wasn't it a good five days to a week before you felt that hunger give way to fullness...when you stopped eating impulsively, but at planned intervels, when you didn't have to resist a certain taste, or smell, or texture, or spice--you simply didn't want it. At some primal level, you were feeding your body the way it wanted, and you were rewarded with complete and absolute control of your appetite.
So, Lori...quit staggering around, trying to find the right diet--you've already found it, seen it work for you, benefited from it's health giving benefits. Go back to what you were doing at Kimkins, but do it more...more, Lori...it's all about more, not less. Put your body, and your mind, and your soul back in balance, set yourself free. You're holding the key in your hand, Lori, why in heaven's name don't you just open the lock, instead of haunting thread after forum thread, looking for what you've already found? Eat, Lori...eat...partake of the things that created homeostasis in all your systems, put yourself at peace. The timetable is a week until you reclaim your Zen...but no one can do it for you.
Peace, my friend. I love you.
Chrysalis
PS: This is just winging it from the heart, Lori...don't expect grammar and spelling to be perfect, but the sentiments and emotions are honest and true.
It hurts to see you so fractured and disoriented regarding your search for the perfect diet. But, maybe I'm being simple here, but--and don't scream at me--I don't see the problem. You've written on several threads that you were full of life, and balance, with a strong faith that you could finally reach your goal, when you were on Kimkins. But Lori, Heidi-Ho stole the life work of several low carb pioneers, and dumbed it down for the masses, then opened her mouth and began speaking in tongues, as if The Word had come straight from her brain, and out through her lips. But Lori...no sacriledge intended, we have all seen the Messiahs of low carbing--you can recite their names like a litinay of Saints, just as can we all--so, once we've been to the Mountain, why bum around with false prophets, like Kimmer.
Okay...you felt great on Kimkins. Why? What were you eating? Certainly not snacks all day. You were basically eating the Atkins Induction program. Look in your books, Girl...it's right there in black and white. Then compare what you find to the Kimmer diet in that infamous Womans' World issue...there it is, supposedly a joint venture between the dieticians at Women's World, and Kimmer, herself. I still have the torn out page on my fridge, and ther is nothing dangerous about it...until you start the inverse of if three ibuprofen is good, a dozen must be better.
Your rational seems to go something like this--if 1200 calories of low carbs makes me lose three pounds a week, 600 calories should up it to six. But ratios and proportions don't work that way...it's just not that simple. You don't buy the smug, threadbare MD's mantra, fewer calories than energy expended, in the amount of 3500 kilicals, results in a weight loss of one pound.So why believe that by cutting your calories to starvation portions, you can double your weight loss? Lori, losing three pounds a week is heroic--that's 144 pounds a year. Have you ever lost 144 pounds in a year, with the added bonus of learning how to keep it off? I know you haven't--you told me so. But after just several months on Kimkins, you seem to believe you could have lost 288 pounds, if you're going on the double it philosophy.
Lori, Why do you think Christin and Deni, and the other big time, rapid losers were chosen for the cover article in Women's World? Because their results weren't typical, because they were beautiful and personble, and intense, and sincere, and kind, and oh, so filled with the joy of success. They didn't sell Kimkin's to us...we bought it ourselves, every one of us, who wanted to have what they had. Did you read about any average losers, people losing 1 1/2, to three pounds a week? No. Then Kimkins wouldn't be a race horse diet, it would be a reliable old plow horse, like Weightwatchers. Remember how everyone bashed Weightwatchers, because we were losing so fast, and those weekly pilgims to the WW sites were barely losing a pound? Lori, what makes a scam work? It sels glamour, success, whatever...and it's so easy for the con artist like Kimmer, because we make ourselves the perfect target. We tell these crooks what we want, what we need, our heart's desire, then we're all astounded when they give it to us. All they are doing is refeeding us everything we said we'd ever wanted.
I'm no doctor, no psychiatriast, not a nutritionist, but back to my original question, Lori, buried somewhere back in all that rubble I've written, what is your problem? You want to be back in control, feel positive about yourself--then go back to the way you were eating at Kimkins...not the miniscule quantity...but the types of food. Quit cooking all the temptations, and go spartan with your eating. By that I mean, pick a few things that you like, and eat them by rote, evey day. Don't excite your taste buds, don't get your pancreas to leaking insulin like a sieve, drivng your hunger...don't eat for your sensory organs, eat for your brain...go on auto pilot. Think back, Lori...when you first began purging yourself, after you joined Kimkins. Wasn't it a good five days to a week before you felt that hunger give way to fullness...when you stopped eating impulsively, but at planned intervels, when you didn't have to resist a certain taste, or smell, or texture, or spice--you simply didn't want it. At some primal level, you were feeding your body the way it wanted, and you were rewarded with complete and absolute control of your appetite.
So, Lori...quit staggering around, trying to find the right diet--you've already found it, seen it work for you, benefited from it's health giving benefits. Go back to what you were doing at Kimkins, but do it more...more, Lori...it's all about more, not less. Put your body, and your mind, and your soul back in balance, set yourself free. You're holding the key in your hand, Lori, why in heaven's name don't you just open the lock, instead of haunting thread after forum thread, looking for what you've already found? Eat, Lori...eat...partake of the things that created homeostasis in all your systems, put yourself at peace. The timetable is a week until you reclaim your Zen...but no one can do it for you.
Peace, my friend. I love you.
Chrysalis
PS: This is just winging it from the heart, Lori...don't expect grammar and spelling to be perfect, but the sentiments and emotions are honest and true.
| QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Oct 1 2007, 08:59 AM) |
| Lori...my sweet friend, It hurts to see you so fractured and disoriented regarding your search for the perfect diet. But, maybe I'm being simple here, but--and don't scream at me--I don't see the problem. You've written on several threads that you were full of life, and balance, with a strong faith that you could finally reach your goal, when you were on Kimkins. But Lori, Heidi-Ho stole the life work of several low carb pioneers, and dumbed it down for the masses, then opened her mouth and began speaking in tongues, as if The Word had come straight from her brain, and out through her lips. But Lori...no sacriledge intended, we have all seen the Messiahs of low carbing--you can recite their names like a litinay of Saints, just as can we all--so, once we've been to the Mountain, why bum around with false prophets, like Kimmer. Okay...you felt great on Kimkins. Why? What were you eating? Certainly not snacks all day. You were basically eating the Atkins Induction program. Look in your books, Girl...it's right there in black and white. Then compare what you find to the Kimmer diet in that infamous Womans' World issue...there it is, supposedly a joint venture between the dieticians at Women's World, and Kimmer, herself. I still have the torn out page on my fridge, and ther is nothing dangerous about it...until you start the inverse of if three ibuprofen is good, a dozen must be better. Your rational seems to go something like this--if 1200 calories of low carbs makes me lose three pounds a week, 600 calories should up it to six. But ratios and proportions don't work that way...it's just not that simple. You don't buy the smug, threadbare MD's mantra, fewer calories than energy expended, in the amount of 3500 kilicals, results in a weight loss of one pound.So why believe that by cutting your calories to starvation portions, you can double your weight loss? Lori, losing three pounds a week is heroic--that's 144 pounds a year. Have you ever lost 144 pounds in a year, with the added bonus of learning how to keep it off? I know you haven't--you told me so. But after just several months on Kimkins, you seem to believe you could have lost 288 pounds, if you're going on the double it philosophy. Lori, Why do you think Christin and Deni, and the other big time, rapid losers were chosen for the cover article in Women's World? Because their results weren't typical, because they were beautiful and personble, and intense, and sincere, and kind, and oh, so filled with the joy of success. They didn't sell Kimkin's to us...we bought it ourselves, every one of us, who wanted to have what they had. Did you read about any average losers, people losing 1 1/2, to three pounds a week? No. Then Kimkins wouldn't be a race horse diet, it would be a reliable old plow horse, like Weightwatchers. Remember how everyone bashed Weightwatchers, because we were losing so fast, and those weekly pilgims to the WW sites were barely losing a pound? Lori, what makes a scam work? It sels glamour, success, whatever...and it's so easy for the con artist like Kimmer, because we make ourselves the perfect target. We tell these crooks what we want, what we need, our heart's desire, then we're all astounded when they give it to us. All they are doing is refeeding us everything we said we'd ever wanted. I'm no doctor, no psychiatriast, not a nutritionist, but back to my original question, Lori, buried somewhere back in all that rubble I've written, what is your problem? You want to be back in control, feel positive about yourself--then go back to the way you were eating at Kimkins...not the miniscule quantity...but the types of food. Quit cooking all the temptations, and go spartan with your eating. By that I mean, pick a few things that you like, and eat them by rote, evey day. Don't excite your taste buds, don't get your pancreas to leaking insulin like a sieve, drivng your hunger...don't eat for your sensory organs, eat for your brain...go on auto pilot. Think back, Lori...when you first began purging yourself, after you joined Kimkins. Wasn't it a good five days to a week before you felt that hunger give way to fullness...when you stopped eating impulsively, but at planned intervels, when you didn't have to resist a certain taste, or smell, or texture, or spice--you simply didn't want it. At some primal level, you were feeding your body the way it wanted, and you were rewarded with complete and absolute control of your appetite. So, Lori...quit staggering around, trying to find the right diet--you've already found it, seen it work for you, benefited from it's health giving benefits. Go back to what you were doing at Kimkins, but do it more...more, Lori...it's all about more, not less. Put your body, and your mind, and your soul back in balance, set yourself free. You're holding the key in your hand, Lori, why in heaven's name don't you just open the lock, instead of haunting thread after forum thread, looking for what you've already found? Eat, Lori...eat...partake of the things that created homeostasis in all your systems, put yourself at peace. The timetable is a week until you reclaim your Zen...but no one can do it for you. Peace, my friend. I love you. Chrysalis PS: This is just winging it from the heart, Lori...don't expect grammar and spelling to be perfect, but the sentiments and emotions are honest and true. |
Linda, thank you. Thank you for helping me. After I read what you wrote, I just sobbed. I think I was so wrapped up in changing the entire way I was eating on KK, I just had it all bollixed up. I didn't think I needed to do Induction for 2 weeks, as that's getting all the carbs out, and they've BEEN out since August. And then I was so excited to eat all the fatty stuff that I'd been missing, that I went overboard, plus made LC goodies and it was all just too much.
I was reading a LOT. I saw where someone said they would do a study where you could eat 10,000 grams of fat and still lose. So I figured I was okay with going overboard.
After THAT, I saw another person (on the LC Muscle Builders forum) where the owner of the forum stated that calories DO count and that you could be in ketosis, have too many calories and gain.
So between those scenarios, is it any wonder I was confused? And with it going on 6 weeks of not losing, nor gaining, it was making me mad, sad, depressed, you name it.
So I guess I shouldn't say I'm doing this diet or the other. If I did so well, with minimal choices on KK, then that's what I'm going to do again, but this time, I'm going to have butter with my eggs and steak, along with the chicken and dip my shrimp in butter if I feel like it, but NOT make those LC treats. Treats, to me, are a danger zone.
And ya know, sugar alcohols might create cravings. In me...that might be true. Maybe that's part of my problem.
Shoot, I wanted to write more but my son called and I have to go pick him up at the library!
I love you, Linda. Thank you SO much! I'm feeling better already.
...to be continued!
Love,
Lori
| QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Oct 1 2007, 08:59 AM) |
| Your rational seems to go something like this--if 1200 calories of low carbs makes me lose three pounds a week, 600 calories should up it to six. But ratios and proportions don't work that way...it's just not that simple. You don't buy the smug, threadbare MD's mantra, fewer calories than energy expended, in the amount of 3500 kilicals, results in a weight loss of one pound.So why believe that by cutting your calories to starvation portions, you can double your weight loss? Lori, losing three pounds a week is heroic--that's 144 pounds a year. Have you ever lost 144 pounds in a year, with the added bonus of learning how to keep it off? I know you haven't--you told me so. But after just several months on Kimkins, you seem to believe you could have lost 288 pounds, if you're going on the double it philosophy. Lori, Why do you think Christin and Deni, and the other big time, rapid losers were chosen for the cover article in Women's World? Because their results weren't typical, because they were beautiful and personble, and intense, and sincere, and kind, and oh, so filled with the joy of success. They didn't sell Kimkin's to us...we bought it ourselves, every one of us, who wanted to have what they had. Did you read about any average losers, people losing 1 1/2, to three pounds a week? No. Then Kimkins wouldn't be a race horse diet, it would be a reliable old plow horse, like Weightwatchers. Remember how everyone bashed Weightwatchers, because we were losing so fast, and those weekly pilgims to the WW sites were barely losing a pound? Lori, what makes a scam work? It sels glamour, success, whatever...and it's so easy for the con artist like Kimmer, because we make ourselves the perfect target. We tell these crooks what we want, what we need, our heart's desire, then we're all astounded when they give it to us. All they are doing is refeeding us everything we said we'd ever wanted. I'm no doctor, no psychiatriast, not a nutritionist, but back to my original question, Lori, buried somewhere back in all that rubble I've written, what is your problem? You want to be back in control, feel positive about yourself--then go back to the way you were eating at Kimkins...not the miniscule quantity...but the types of food. Quit cooking all the temptations, and go spartan with your eating. By that I mean, pick a few things that you like, and eat them by rote, evey day. Don't excite your taste buds, don't get your pancreas to leaking insulin like a sieve, drivng your hunger...don't eat for your sensory organs, eat for your brain...go on auto pilot. Think back, Lori...when you first began purging yourself, after you joined Kimkins. Wasn't it a good five days to a week before you felt that hunger give way to fullness...when you stopped eating impulsively, but at planned intervels, when you didn't have to resist a certain taste, or smell, or texture, or spice--you simply didn't want it. At some primal level, you were feeding your body the way it wanted, and you were rewarded with complete and absolute control of your appetite. So, Lori...quit staggering around, trying to find the right diet--you've already found it, seen it work for you, benefited from it's health giving benefits. Go back to what you were doing at Kimkins, but do it more...more, Lori...it's all about more, not less. Put your body, and your mind, and your soul back in balance, set yourself free. You're holding the key in your hand, Lori, why in heaven's name don't you just open the lock, instead of haunting thread after forum thread, looking for what you've already found? Eat, Lori...eat...partake of the things that created homeostasis in all your systems, put yourself at peace. The timetable is a week until you reclaim your Zen...but no one can do it for you. Peace, my friend. I love you. Chrysalis PS: This is just winging it from the heart, Lori...don't expect grammar and spelling to be perfect, but the sentiments and emotions are honest and true. |
Hi again.
Linda, where'd you get that rationale from? I don't remember ever saying that, nor anything like it. Did I say it somewhere and forget I said it? I know I can't lose as much as I did on KK...that wasn't healthy. I know that. The thing that's been getting to me is that I've been MAJOR stuck after, what seemed to me, to be a healthier way of eating (by adding the fats). So anyway, don't worry! I'm not thinking along those lines, k?
Like I said above, I'm going to eat the same way (which means no snacking like it's going outta style) as I did on KK, but add fats and no desserts until Maint. (or at least not every single day, like I kinda have been, sorta. LOL) OMG, I WAS haunting other forums, other topics, trying find something that fit. I just felt kinda lost. And you found me. (you stalker, you! LOL Thank you for that!) I corralled everyone over here, then, when I knew they were safe, I wandered past the fence and got lost.
Becky, Christin and Deni weren't the ones who sold me on KK. The words "Better Than Gastric Bypass" is what did it.
I'd been contemplating the lapband before this all happened. (I never would consider the bypass, as that's too much slicin' and dicin' for me.) My doc had been keeping tabs on my weight for the last several months since I asked him about it. We were going to do it.Anyway, I knew the talk that was going around *before* I even joined. I wanted to see for myself. After reading the diets, they sounded okay to me. I just figured that I'd keep my eyeballs peeled for signs of the "plan behind the plan" and just not fall for it. And I didn't. I just didn't know that fat being that low was a problem. When I found out and made friends, I had to share my concerns. Which is why I am where I am today...er...or rather yesterday. Today I feel better after reading your post to me.
You're absolutely right, Linda. I just used the added fat as a license to eat the treats as much as I wanted. No more. I'm going "spartan" as you said. I like that idea! Kinda has a ring to it. "So..what diet plan are you following, Lori?" "Oh, the Spartan Plan!" HAHA.
I'm even changing my avatar, cuz the old one was for KK...this one is the "new" me starting today. I can do this. I have to read more "Law of Attraction" stuff. I'm crawling outta my slump. I'm going to be in control.
(Pssst! Can I still be a Creped Crusader? PM me!)
Thanks for finding my key.
Hold my hand, Lori...I'm making this trip with you. As of now, we're on the Spartan Diet...heaven knows I've been on the Trojan Diet (now we're talking starvation, famine, and drought, sister girl!) long enough! 
Sorry Jimmy, TMI.
So, tell me...what's for dinner, Mrs. Skinner? How 'bout filet of sole, as in shoe leather? Seems I've developed a taste for it, what with putting my foot in my mouth so often. Now, here, take your guitar and sing for your life, Lori, sing for joy...sing so that all of your friends can believe that you are home, again, and that you are finally healing.
JAZZY, SUNNY, want to get Spartan with Lori and I?
Sorry Jimmy, TMI.
So, tell me...what's for dinner, Mrs. Skinner? How 'bout filet of sole, as in shoe leather? Seems I've developed a taste for it, what with putting my foot in my mouth so often. Now, here, take your guitar and sing for your life, Lori, sing for joy...sing so that all of your friends can believe that you are home, again, and that you are finally healing.
JAZZY, SUNNY, want to get Spartan with Lori and I?
| QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Oct 1 2007, 04:24 PM) |
| Hold my hand, Lori...I'm making this trip with you. As of now, we're on the Spartan Diet...heaven knows I've been on the Trojan Diet (now we're talking starvation, famine, and drought, sister girl!) long enough! Sorry Jimmy, TMI. So, tell me...what's for dinner, Mrs. Skinner? How 'bout filet of sole, as in shoe leather? Seems I've developed a taste for it, what with putting my foot in my mouth so often. Now, here, take your guitar and sing for your life, Lori, sing for joy...sing so that all of your friends can believe that you are home, again, and that you are finally healing. JAZZY, SUNNY, want to get Spartan with Lori and I? |
PS: Yes, you're on the Creped Crusaders team...go check out our thread, and help us battle off the barbarian hoarders.
Linda
PS: But much as I love you, and despite the promise I just gave you, no way am I eating green eggs and ham.
Lori,
I read your post and it made me sad. I wanted to tell you that I have felt a little like you talk about in that post. I feel lost. I think I sunk too much hope, time, trust and faith into a group. Not even so much Kimmer but the group . I got excited about the support. I felt very at home there and got great support there. But now of course the group is very small and almost every person I know there has left. There are a few in my changelle forum that I still keep up with over there but still it is not the same.
I will tell you that I am one of the people that took things too far with her plan. I will take the blame and say I got a little hooked on the scale moving daily. That feleing was what kept me happy and feeling good about myself. I think that statement says something deep about me. I need to feel good about me, no matter what. But that is a work in progress and I am working on that.
I lost on KK and I liked the feeling and the results. I also know that I can not keep up eating the way I was eating on KK or I will have bad issues. So for me I am doing a motified KK. Not KK, not Atkins...just a little extra of this or that but not tons of fat or calories.
Will that work for me? I do not know. Time will tell. But I have to start somewhere , ya know?
I would love to be able to keep in touch with you. if you have a journal, stop by mine and leave me the link.
You will find YOUR way, I am sure of it.
Hugs,
Amy B
I read your post and it made me sad. I wanted to tell you that I have felt a little like you talk about in that post. I feel lost. I think I sunk too much hope, time, trust and faith into a group. Not even so much Kimmer but the group . I got excited about the support. I felt very at home there and got great support there. But now of course the group is very small and almost every person I know there has left. There are a few in my changelle forum that I still keep up with over there but still it is not the same.
I will tell you that I am one of the people that took things too far with her plan. I will take the blame and say I got a little hooked on the scale moving daily. That feleing was what kept me happy and feeling good about myself. I think that statement says something deep about me. I need to feel good about me, no matter what. But that is a work in progress and I am working on that.
I lost on KK and I liked the feeling and the results. I also know that I can not keep up eating the way I was eating on KK or I will have bad issues. So for me I am doing a motified KK. Not KK, not Atkins...just a little extra of this or that but not tons of fat or calories.
Will that work for me? I do not know. Time will tell. But I have to start somewhere , ya know?
I would love to be able to keep in touch with you. if you have a journal, stop by mine and leave me the link.
You will find YOUR way, I am sure of it.
Hugs,
Amy B
Lori,
I'm starting today to put all my calories into fitday.
http://www.fitday.com/
Hey - I am like you. I have lost 100 pounds on Atkins, but I'm seriously stalled.
I have about 200 pounds to go.
I'm starting today to put all my calories into fitday.
http://www.fitday.com/
Hey - I am like you. I have lost 100 pounds on Atkins, but I'm seriously stalled.
I have about 200 pounds to go.
| QUOTE (Dave @ Oct 2 2007, 06:08 PM) |
| Lori, I'm starting today to put all my calories into fitday. http://www.fitday.com/ Hey - I am like you. I have lost 100 pounds on Atkins, but I'm seriously stalled. I have about 200 pounds to go. |
Hey Dave,
I hate stalls. They're icky.
I was using FitDay myself, but I was getting frustrated at the lack of brand name foods to choose from. Several of the girls from KK said they were using www.thedailyplate.com, so I went over there to try it out and I LOVE it! It's got a lot of brand names, so it's really easy to choose foods. It's also free!
If it's free, it's for ME!
Hugs,
Lori
| QUOTE (Amyb @ Oct 2 2007, 03:42 PM) |
| Lori, I read your post and it made me sad. I wanted to tell you that I have felt a little like you talk about in that post. I feel lost. I think I sunk too much hope, time, trust and faith into a group. Not even so much Kimmer but the group . I got excited about the support. I felt very at home there and got great support there. But now of course the group is very small and almost every person I know there has left. There are a few in my changelle forum that I still keep up with over there but still it is not the same. I will tell you that I am one of the people that took things too far with her plan. I will take the blame and say I got a little hooked on the scale moving daily. That feleing was what kept me happy and feeling good about myself. I think that statement says something deep about me. I need to feel good about me, no matter what. But that is a work in progress and I am working on that. I lost on KK and I liked the feeling and the results. I also know that I can not keep up eating the way I was eating on KK or I will have bad issues. So for me I am doing a motified KK. Not KK, not Atkins...just a little extra of this or that but not tons of fat or calories. Will that work for me? I do not know. Time will tell. But I have to start somewhere , ya know? I would love to be able to keep in touch with you. if you have a journal, stop by mine and leave me the link. You will find YOUR way, I am sure of it. Hugs, Amy B |
Hiya Amyb!
I'm so glad you posted. I, too, was so involved with the group I was in over at KK and that's why, when I saw what was happening, I gathered up the troops and suggested they come over here. Have you found any of your friends from KK here? You'll find the support, friendship and fun right here, Amy...it's just the food that's changed, really. Well, and the whole format of posting and everything that we were used to, but we'll get the hang of it and it'll become second nature, just like it was over THERE. And we might even get chat!!
Don't allow yourself not to trust again, Amy. I don't know if you've ever low carbed before or if KK was your first attempt, but it does work. Keep coming here and hanging out. Eventually, you'll find you're spending more time here with old and new friends, and over THERE will cease to be as important to you. Since this whole mess, I've been here and THERE and over the last several days, I've found that I'm not even going there for a couple days at a time. I'm not missing it as much, as this place is starting to feel like home. You'll feel it too, my friend. It just takes some time and healing. I'm starting to feel MUCH better, and even joined a Challenge!
I know how ya feel about the let down. Actually, my good friend Chrysalis got me out of the dumps just yesterday. That lady has got a way with words, lemme tell ya. She lifted my spirits and made me realize that I can do almost as I did over THERE, but in a more healthy way. For some reason, I was turning myself upside down with this and making it WAY more difficult than it had to be. So, I'm still doing Kimkins, but instead of low fat, I'm making it BIG fat! So, it's really NOT Kimkins anymore, but in my mind I kinda have to refer to it as that for right now to keep myself straight on things. Geeze, I sound like a nutbag. I hope you know what I'm trying to say.
Amy, add fat to your diet. Keep eating the Kimkins way, but just add fat. For instance, if you eat eggs for breakfast, use butter in the pan. If you have a protein shake, add 1 or 2 Tablespoons of peanut butter. If you eat fish, use butter and forget the spray stuff. Replace chicken once or twice a week with a nice ribeye steak! Don't use the steak sauce, though, cuz that's pretty carby, I think. They do have a South Beach version that's low carb. Low carb ketchup too! If you keep your carbs low and just add fat, that should help you stay healthy, but continue to lose the weight. It won't come off as fast, and I know how that was SO cool to see happen and I think that's the part I miss the most. But we sure don't want to be skinny dead people, now do we?
The reason I'm overweight to begin with is that I overeat. So, when I added the fats, I started overeating again. Even if it was legal, low carb food, it was the LC desserts and goodies that I was craving. And I ate as much and as often as I wanted. Today, I'm not doing that. I'm eating breakfast, lunch and dinner, but I'm eating full fat meals and not overdoing it. I can't have too many choices, as they just mess me up and make me obsess over what I can make next. I'll leave that until Maintenance.
Maybe Kimmer taught me something after all. Besides, the best revenge is success.
"Realize that any time you feel pained or defeated, it is only because you insist on clinging to what doesn't work. Dare to let go and you won't lose a thing except for a punishing idea."
Guy Finley
Author of "The Secret of Letting Go"
I don't have a journal, but follow me around here if ya want and PM me! You'll find your way, too, Amy. We all will.
Big love and hugs,
Lori
Want to know how to up my calories if I do this?? I don't think I could consume enough calories. What if you give an example of a days menu?
I have been on a stall since May loosing and gaining the same 7 lbs. I am looking for ideas to break the stall. I lost 50 lbs between Jan and May and do not eat any different. (I've tried tweeks but nothing to through me off this stall)
Thanks in advance.
karrie
I have been on a stall since May loosing and gaining the same 7 lbs. I am looking for ideas to break the stall. I lost 50 lbs between Jan and May and do not eat any different. (I've tried tweeks but nothing to through me off this stall)
Thanks in advance.
karrie
Dave,
Today, I went back to using my FitDay, too. It just helps me keep it real.
Today, I went back to using my FitDay, too. It just helps me keep it real.
I'm trying to use it, but it's just so...American! (ewwwwww!) 
What's an ounce???
What's an ounce???
| QUOTE (Dave @ Oct 3 2007, 01:42 AM) |
| I'm trying to use it, but it's just so...American! (ewwwwww!) What's an ounce??? |
I went looking for an onine calorie/diet/journal for the Oz people, but didn't find one!
In the meantime, you can always convert your measurements with this:
Conversion Calculator
Also, when I was in 7th grade (egads...1970!), we all had to learn the metric system because everyone said the US was going to switch over. It never happened!
All that freakin' homework for NOTHING!
Hugs,
Lori
| QUOTE |
| Also, when I was in 7th grade (egads...1970!), we all had to learn the metric system because everyone said the US was going to switch over. It never happened! |
Lori,
That is soooo funny! I remember that! I didn't go to Kindergarten until 1971, but in my 4rd grade class they were still trying to scare us with metrics! Ha ha And then, poof! it was gone and I never saw the metric system again till college chemistry!
I have started Fitday again, too. It helps me to "keep it real" too, LivingHealthy! I have been trying all kinds of things because of my two month stall. I have noticed that most days I never touch a vegetable, so this zero carb thing might be really easy to try... Really, the only vegetables I eat are broccoli and lettuce. Broccoli is once a week or less and lettuce is more often-- maybe twice a week.... But my carbs hover between 5 and 10, depending on the day. I was a bit shocked yesterday by how many calories I ate. I was always doing the math in my head and I was guessing 1600 and it turned out to be more. I forgot a couple things that I ate.
I am off to the gym now by myself... My husband or my daughter usually go with me but Valerie started back to school and is overwhelmed with her studies. And this last week Tim has been overwhelmed with work to do. It has been up to me to get some exercise. I pretty much haven't! I really get anxious at the gym alone. My social anxiety is nothing compared to what it used to be, but it is still something I experience occasionally.
I went the The Bear's page and read his stuff... fascinating.
Kristi
I was born in 1983, and even they tried to teach us the metric system. I have no idea about that stuff.
I have a Toyota Prius and you can switch from miles to kilometers. Well, when I drove it off the lot it was switched to kilometers. I had no idea. I wondered why everyone was passing me. I thought was doing 35, but I think it was more like 15 MPH. I thought I was going slow. Americans, what are you going to do with us?
And back to the original topic. I am considering doing all meat and eggs. I would really only be giving up cheese. I want to see what it's like not having dairy in my system. I read where it can cause mucus and other issues. We'll see if it does anything for me.
I have a Toyota Prius and you can switch from miles to kilometers. Well, when I drove it off the lot it was switched to kilometers. I had no idea. I wondered why everyone was passing me. I thought was doing 35, but I think it was more like 15 MPH. I thought I was going slow. Americans, what are you going to do with us?
And back to the original topic. I am considering doing all meat and eggs. I would really only be giving up cheese. I want to see what it's like not having dairy in my system. I read where it can cause mucus and other issues. We'll see if it does anything for me.
Sydney,
That dairy thing might be a good idea to try for the mucous. for some, cheese is the key! I had terrible trouble with mucous. I was on DANDR for 5 weeks starting the end of May--with all the bars, low carb tortillas, and shakes, etc. Then I switched to Kimkins for 5 weeks. Then to Atkins 72/Barry Groves since then. The biggest change came when I started KK. All my mucous went away almost overnight--maybe two days. And I didn't snore at all anymore. (I have to say that I have always snored--since toddlerhood. The snoring was cut way down when I got braces about six years ago and surgery to correct my bite and my upper palate. The doctor said that my nasal passages were just too small for even a normal amount of mucous. So the surgery opened them up a bit as a side effect of widening my upper palate. But the snoring was not gone--just cut way down. I still had way too much mucous.) When I started KK, the two big changes were: no cheese, and no Atkins bars or tortillas. I still had EAS shakes on KK which have dairy. So I wasn't totally sure which thing was the cause of the mucous. But now I know. It was not the cheese for me. It was the wheat I had been having in Atkins bars and low carb tortillas! I have eaten a lot of cheese since quitting KK in the middle of August, but I have kept away from all wheat. I still never snore and have no extra mucous--even with all my allergies. Low carb tortillas are killers for me! I can't eat the Carbquick or low carb breads, either cuz of the wheat. That is another reason that I am so close to the zero carb thing already!
You were
Kristiborn in 1983?? Yikes! I was a junior in high school in 1983. And my oldest child is three years younger than you! Wow. I just keep forgetting that I am 41. My birthday was at the end of August so I am still not quite used to it. Heck, I am still not used to 37! 36 is the last time I felt like I was the right age!
That dairy thing might be a good idea to try for the mucous. for some, cheese is the key! I had terrible trouble with mucous. I was on DANDR for 5 weeks starting the end of May--with all the bars, low carb tortillas, and shakes, etc. Then I switched to Kimkins for 5 weeks. Then to Atkins 72/Barry Groves since then. The biggest change came when I started KK. All my mucous went away almost overnight--maybe two days. And I didn't snore at all anymore. (I have to say that I have always snored--since toddlerhood. The snoring was cut way down when I got braces about six years ago and surgery to correct my bite and my upper palate. The doctor said that my nasal passages were just too small for even a normal amount of mucous. So the surgery opened them up a bit as a side effect of widening my upper palate. But the snoring was not gone--just cut way down. I still had way too much mucous.) When I started KK, the two big changes were: no cheese, and no Atkins bars or tortillas. I still had EAS shakes on KK which have dairy. So I wasn't totally sure which thing was the cause of the mucous. But now I know. It was not the cheese for me. It was the wheat I had been having in Atkins bars and low carb tortillas! I have eaten a lot of cheese since quitting KK in the middle of August, but I have kept away from all wheat. I still never snore and have no extra mucous--even with all my allergies. Low carb tortillas are killers for me! I can't eat the Carbquick or low carb breads, either cuz of the wheat. That is another reason that I am so close to the zero carb thing already!
You were
Kristiborn in 1983?? Yikes! I was a junior in high school in 1983. And my oldest child is three years younger than you! Wow. I just keep forgetting that I am 41. My birthday was at the end of August so I am still not quite used to it. Heck, I am still not used to 37! 36 is the last time I felt like I was the right age!
When I went on KK, all the thick phlegm subsided, too. After resuming dairy, I noticed it creeping back. I do eat some cheese still and it hasn't all vanished yet, but tolerable. As far as I know, I haven't started snoring again. At least my DH hasn't complained. Maybe he missed the racket. HA!!!
As of today I have stopped dairy... I will let you know how it goes.
I am having a hard time with all the fat, don't get me wrong, it is delish!! But I am running to the bathroom all the time!! And I don't mean #1.
Is anyone else having this problem?? I also feel a little queezy. Any suggestions? I have been low carbing on and off for a while and have never felt like this.
Thanks ya all!!
Norma
I am having a hard time with all the fat, don't get me wrong, it is delish!! But I am running to the bathroom all the time!! And I don't mean #1.
Is anyone else having this problem?? I also feel a little queezy. Any suggestions? I have been low carbing on and off for a while and have never felt like this.Thanks ya all!!
Norma
Dave the Australian Calorie King site has a good food diary, all Aussie products too.
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