Hi, my name is ArtDove.

I came from kkland. I need some sanity back. Not from the diet but the
mental control weirdness.

I'm upset ..
Not because perhaps it was a ruse, that she didn't lose the weight (feel sorry for her),
the diet wasn't good (been to too many rodeos to know that 500 or less calories ain't wise), etc, etc.

I'm upset because
it feels like walking on eggshells "over there"
Like I need to disinfect and take a long bath
Like "what? I paid money to be afraid to post in a civil manner
or watch others be denigrated and be too afraid to come to their defense?"
Like being watched all the time
Like what's up with unfriendly ones in the chat over there hanging out
24/7 but won't chat with anyone but recent signups?

I'm upset because one reason I have gained is in reaction to people
trying to control me. Perhaps some of you can relate..perhaps not.
Being secretive, manipulative, controlling is toxic and not good for
my weight loss. Who do you, can you trust?
I'm upset because "what a shame...coulda been a good place"
But mainly I think I'm trying to get healthy and look better and
that place ...makes me have a knot in my stomach, makes me feel uneasy,
makes me question if the empress has no clothes...metaphorically speaking.

Thank you for letting me vent. I wish I felt more relieved right now. Maybe I will
once I press the submit button. Maybe I'm still scared I'll be banned over there.
(Hopefully, not here!) Not trying to be negative just trying to get this off my mind to go on to focus on losing the weight.

Thank you for your time.

youre not being negative-you are being realistic-believe me-i know-i was banned because i pleaded with Kimmer to show herself to put an end to all this drama....no way she is going to show herself-she is untrustworthy and evil-the people here are exactly the opposite---welcome

Thanks, Jaybee.

I never confronted anyone but I felt like confronting some really rude people that
were calling people names just for questioning what was going on. That took a lot of courage from you.

What's up with the duck? I know it means something but don't know what.

Hey DoveMelt! Vent away, my friend, that's one of the parts of the healing process and we welcome you with open arms to my forum. Sit back, relax and enjoy the peaceful serenity of your new home now. It's all gonna be okay.

Welcome Dovemelt! We are glad you've joined us and we hope that you will find this forum comforting, relaxing, helpful and fun!

Gee, y'all make me cry.

Now I feel a release.

Thank you, SG & Jimmy.
Thanks Jimmy so much for all your work. I read yr apology and totally understand your journey. God bless you providing this spot.
I learned most about kk from your sites.

I don't regret anything...learned a lot...have lost a size but have so much more. Glad I found this place b4 I got desperate doing something more drastic caloriewise.

I never followed KK exactly but did restrict the fat somewhat unlike Atkins. Couldn't lose on Atkins anymore but wasn't doing induction. Cream makes me stall. But I always cooked with plenty of olive oil..never could see how that could be bad for you.

I wonder if you can just stay on Atkins induction with lc veggies?

Thank you AGAIN!!

It's wonderful to have you here, DoveMelt! We're happy to help. You COULD do Atkins with non-starchy veggies, although there will be certain animal fats that your body could use to help you get healthier. Fat is indeed what makes low-carb (the genuine low-carb lifestyle, that is) really work. Using butter, coconut oil, macadamia nut oil, avocado oil, and even lard is not as unhealthy as those "experts" have been telling us. Keep your carbs reduced and fat is HEALTHY. I know this is all so new, but you're gonna get there. KEEP AT IT!!!

This has been so hard for me to do....leave the Kimkins site! But I just can't do it anymore ....I've felt for along time that the plan was just not that safe...I know we all need fat in our diets for so many reasons...and 500 cals. that is just stupid!!!

I joined Kimkins after the WW article, like so many others...my initial weight came off very slowly and I was very frustrated, and the stalls and constipation are terrible...several weeks ago I begain adding more fat and calories...I feel better and the scale is moving again!!!! I don't believe we have to feel like crap to lose the weight.

I'm looking forward to the encouragement that I've seen so much of here, and I know in my heart this is a good place to be.

Thanks
Roxy


stats....highest wt. 266...KK..256...current wt..218

Roxy, welcome to my forum, too! We embrace you with open arms here and encourage you to reunite with old friends and make new ones along the way. You are safe here and we are here to encourage you in this journey to weight loss and improved health. YOU CAN DO IT!!! THANK YOU for having the courage to make this change in your life.

Thank-You.....I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes and feeling a great sense of belonging.....I know I've found a new home!!!!

Thank-You again
Roxy

I know I will learn so much wandering around the forums and I will post when I can!!!

Roxy

Were you a Junebug? Glad you are here!
I joined in June after the WW article...I found alfalfa tabs helped.

I'm starting to feel better here. Much lighter feel!


Just freedom to explore and discuss..YES! that's going to help so much.

It was a hard decision to leave, I agree....I haven't officially left but my dh said
to go ahead and post something over there asking questions so then
I can ask for my money back if I get banned.

I dunno...they're spamming the boards asking for members to post positive
stuff at BBB so I guess they're feeling this:

Glad to have you with us Roxy! I do hope you feel at home here. We love making new friends! I can understand how you feel. It's hard to make changes like this one. But keep in mind that changes can be a GREAT thing!

You'll do fine Dovemelt. Just give yourself some time to adjust and learn.

jaybee, I dont' think I've had a chance to welcome you to our little home either.. so WELCOME!!

to you all!

Post early and post often, Roxy. We're here for ya!

Hello, Dove, Jen, and Roxy!

You will find a refreshing freedom now!

Becky

Thank you. Good to see you here.

I'm amazed how much great info there is here vs. kk. Still lurking over there but it's really a waste of time at this pt. except for the one challenge place I'm still attached to ppl. Hopefully, they'll land here also at somepoint.

Thanks for the warm welcome, I haven't posted much, there is so much
information to absorb!!!!! I Love it!!!! input

I guess I haven't really committed to a so called plan yet, I'm doing modified
atkins.......until I get all the books to get caught up with.....I ordered them on ebay
I'm sure they'll be here soon...

Thanks again.....this just feels so right

Roxy

Welcome again, Roxy! Until your books arrive, make sure your calories at over 1200, your fat is HALF of your calories each day, and that you are NEVER hungry. If you're hungry, then eat foods that are high-fat, moderate-protein. Sound good?

hi Becky-it is so like being in heaven running in to you here-i look forward to your very sage posts.......Jen