i am actually nervous. while i am usually one to jump right into the pool, now i feel like i need to stick in a toe, then another, then maybe my foot...and just feel out the water first.
i am a kimkins participant. and i love kimkins, love the way of eating, love the results. it's been highly successful for me, and health wise, it's been a life saver. except for hair loss...and that's the only thing that has spurred me into changing.
i still support kimkins and love, so dearly, those who've made the journey with me. some are here, some are still there. regardless, they are my friends and compadres.
i so badly want to continue with the way i've been eating. i feel so good. i love the changes. but i recognize the need to add more healthy fats, so that is why i am here sticking my toe into the water, hoping to find support, advice, and just a warm place to figure out how to manage all this.
i've been in contact with jimmy and he's helped me get started. baby steps...i've started eating more whole eggs, using some real salad dressing, and have added coconut oil into my daily menu.
and i've gained some weight back. i am trying not to panic about it, accept there is a period of adjustment...but it's depressing. i've done atkins (DANDR) years before, and lost quite a bit, but found it hard to maintain and gained about half back. the cravings never disappeared like they have while on KK. and i never felt as good as i do now, energy and health wise. so i need to find a balance between the two. some healthy fats i need...but just disregard for the amount of fats doesn't work for me. again...the right balance.
any suggestions are more than welcomed. hints, help, kick in the pants, or hugs...i feel somewhat lost lately because of everything. i want that happy, successful feeling back that i flew through the summer on. i miss it. and i miss seeing it in my friends, too.
the "controversy" has made me very sad. and my friends. we are all suffering because of it. i hate what has happened and i hope those involved, especially those actively participating in the destruction from both sides, recognize the people that innocently have been, and will be, hurt by it all. those forums are filled with such good people who just want to do right by themselves and each other. and blame is placed on both sides.
i think i've said enough..or too much...for my first venture here. i look forward to reading more and learning more...and finding that weight loss smile again.
Full Version: Baby Steps
Hi Moofie and welcome! It is natural to gain some water when switching from a Kimkins type diet. You did not say how many calories you've been eating, but your body is telling you something with the hair loss.
If you haven't already, please read the Attn: ex-Kimkins members this info is for you thread. It will explain why ultra low calories and ultra low fat are not what controls your appetite. You can achieve that same level of appetite control without the very low calories. There are also posts scattered throughout this forum from members like yourself who have come from Kimkins and made the switch to higher fat and calories and continued to lose.
Best of luck to you and let me know if I can help in any way.
If you haven't already, please read the Attn: ex-Kimkins members this info is for you thread. It will explain why ultra low calories and ultra low fat are not what controls your appetite. You can achieve that same level of appetite control without the very low calories. There are also posts scattered throughout this forum from members like yourself who have come from Kimkins and made the switch to higher fat and calories and continued to lose.
Best of luck to you and let me know if I can help in any way.
thanks, melodie. i have been reading the transitioning from KK threads, and the one you've mentioned.
i've been pretty good about keeping my calories up while on KK. but i knew i could easily embrace the lower cal lifestyle with ease because i just didn't want to eat. i was satisfied with very little. but i knew better and would make myself eat.
now i need to get the fats in there and continue to lose. when i was on atkins before i didn't feel this level of appetite control, so i am afraid of losing it. it's the first time in my life where food has not been the focus of my thoughts on a daily basis. i can look at food as fuel now. i like that.
i've been pretty good about keeping my calories up while on KK. but i knew i could easily embrace the lower cal lifestyle with ease because i just didn't want to eat. i was satisfied with very little. but i knew better and would make myself eat.
now i need to get the fats in there and continue to lose. when i was on atkins before i didn't feel this level of appetite control, so i am afraid of losing it. it's the first time in my life where food has not been the focus of my thoughts on a daily basis. i can look at food as fuel now. i like that.
Hi Moofie!
Welcome! You are a friend of Lorraine's aren't you? I'm from kk too and am in the process of adding more good fats to my diet. Fat doesn't stop the ketosis, so your appetite should still stay supressed.
There is a world of info here. Have fun reading!
Welcome! You are a friend of Lorraine's aren't you? I'm from kk too and am in the process of adding more good fats to my diet. Fat doesn't stop the ketosis, so your appetite should still stay supressed.
There is a world of info here. Have fun reading!
Hi Ginger...yes, i am a friend of lorraine's. she is one that i adore 
thanks for the welcome!
thanks for the welcome!
Moofie, I did Kimkins too, because I felt Atkin's failed me. It didn't, I failed Atkins, I wasn't doing it right. I am now doing Barry Groves plan "Natural Healing and Weight Loss" and have the same level of appetite control I enjoyed on Kimkins. Atkins done right can give you that level of control as well, but you can't do it with a bias to low fat. You've got to do it all the way and you won't be hungry. Congrats on your weight loss BTW!
Welcome Moofie and I'm so glad you are here at my forum! I'm happy to see you've implemented some of my suggestions into your diet. But don't worry about the TEMPORARY gain you are experiencing. Your metabolism needs to be reset to begin losing weight the right way with the healthy low-carb lifestyle. YOU CAN DO THIS and you have an outstanding system of support here from people who will love and care about you all the way to the finish line of this adventurous race to better health! 
Hi Moofie, I'm very happy to see you here, and look forward to continuing our friendship here as well as at KK. I havn't come on here as much as i should because I'm spreading myself very thin lately (too bad that "thin" isn't literal LOL). I'll do my best to come on regularily. Take care. Your awsome. 
Hi Ginger, I missed you, and will check in on you and Su soon. Have a great night.
| QUOTE (melodiegale @ Sep 20 2007, 08:38 PM) |
| Moofie, I did Kimkins too, because I felt Atkin's failed me. It didn't, I failed Atkins, I wasn't doing it right. I am now doing Barry Groves plan "Natural Healing and Weight Loss" and have the same level of appetite control I enjoyed on Kimkins. Atkins done right can give you that level of control as well, but you can't do it with a bias to low fat. You've got to do it all the way and you won't be hungry. Congrats on your weight loss BTW! |
thanks, melodie. and you've made a good point. if i do it, it should be all the way. i just don't know if i am ready to take that step. it terrifies me to put on weight again.
| QUOTE (livinlowcarbman @ Sep 20 2007, 10:02 PM) |
| Welcome Moofie and I'm so glad you are here at my forum! I'm happy to see you've implemented some of my suggestions into your diet. But don't worry about the TEMPORARY gain you are experiencing. Your metabolism needs to be reset to begin losing weight the right way with the healthy low-carb lifestyle. YOU CAN DO THIS and you have an outstanding system of support here from people who will love and care about you all the way to the finish line of this adventurous race to better health! |
thank you, jimmy. i am trying.
| QUOTE (Rainy69 @ Sep 21 2007, 01:23 AM) |
| Hi Moofie, I'm very happy to see you here, and look forward to continuing our friendship here as well as at KK. I havn't come on here as much as i should because I'm spreading myself very thin lately (too bad that "thin" isn't literal LOL). I'll do my best to come on regularily. Take care. Your awsome. |
hi lorraine - you better come here. i am not doing this without you!
September 21
no change...240.6
it's so hard to convince yourself that adding calories and fats are a good thing when the scale moves either in the wrong direction or not at all. it makes it impossible for my head to wrap around that i am making the right changes. i am terrified to see any significant weight gain and that really keeps me from putting food into myself. i ate more fats yesterday than i have in months...but i didn't eat alot more food. i am just freaked about seeing another gain.
part of my logical brain says it's just water, and like someone commented (sorry i am still learning everyone's names), that is normal. and it does feel like water..my hands are a little more swollen, my rings a little tighter. but my illogical brain just screams that i am gaining weight and undoing all my progress. i feel like that cartoon with the devil on one shoulder, the angel on the other.
in order to allow myself permission...and find some sanity...during this transition, i think i need to put the scale somewhere out of reach. my friend lorraine has thought about putting it away until oct. 1 because a friend of hers is going through the same thing and made that decision...so i think i will jump on that bandwagon and go scale free.
ohmy..that is scary, too.
but maybe it's the next baby step i gotta take.
no change...240.6
it's so hard to convince yourself that adding calories and fats are a good thing when the scale moves either in the wrong direction or not at all. it makes it impossible for my head to wrap around that i am making the right changes. i am terrified to see any significant weight gain and that really keeps me from putting food into myself. i ate more fats yesterday than i have in months...but i didn't eat alot more food. i am just freaked about seeing another gain.
part of my logical brain says it's just water, and like someone commented (sorry i am still learning everyone's names), that is normal. and it does feel like water..my hands are a little more swollen, my rings a little tighter. but my illogical brain just screams that i am gaining weight and undoing all my progress. i feel like that cartoon with the devil on one shoulder, the angel on the other.
in order to allow myself permission...and find some sanity...during this transition, i think i need to put the scale somewhere out of reach. my friend lorraine has thought about putting it away until oct. 1 because a friend of hers is going through the same thing and made that decision...so i think i will jump on that bandwagon and go scale free.
ohmy..that is scary, too.
but maybe it's the next baby step i gotta take.
I put my scale away 8 years ago and this is what happened for me. I've kept all but about 1 size off for 7 years, working on that plus 2 more as we speak.
http://www.lowcarbdiscussion.com/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=384&
http://www.lowcarbdiscussion.com/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=384&
Moofie, we have seen so much success and steady weightloss this summer, and really want it for ourselves. I really know how you feel, and sympathize with you. Yes we are smart and we KNOW that it is most likely water weight, but still the all mighty number is what we care about. Do you rmember when Kjersten was having some weightloss issues early in the summer and was feeling discouraged? We all told her to look at the big picture, and to look at how healthy she was eating. She stuck with it for so long without any losses and sometimes even gaining, so Not it's time for you (me too) to take our own advice and remember that we are being healthy. That scale is killing us, and is in complete control of our lives these days.
I finally decided to ignore mine, and I encourage you to do the same for maybe a week. You will know when you are ready to check your weight.
I wish you the best today. Your doing great and are, as always, an inspiration.
I finally decided to ignore mine, and I encourage you to do the same for maybe a week. You will know when you are ready to check your weight.
I wish you the best today. Your doing great and are, as always, an inspiration.
Hi moofie! I just moved here from kk also. I was involved with the ants and the spice/advice chicken tender cafe. I came by myself, but have found a lot of familiar names! Your's included! Good luck to us all!!
| QUOTE (wishbone @ Sep 21 2007, 02:53 PM) |
| Hi moofie! I just moved here from kk also. I was involved with the ants and the spice/advice chicken tender cafe. I came by myself, but have found a lot of familiar names! Your's included! Good luck to us all!! |
hi wishbone!
it's good to see more familiar faces. i loved the support and comraderie on kk, and hope to rebuild that here. it is a necessary part and the strength of this journey.
| QUOTE (melodiegale @ Sep 21 2007, 08:47 AM) |
| I put my scale away 8 years ago and this is what happened for me. I've kept all but about 1 size off for 7 years, working on that plus 2 more as we speak. |
melodie,
it was a hard thing to put away the scale. i feel like i need that accountability in order to continue losing weight. but i am going to try, at least for awhile
maybe i will like it.congrat's on your maintaining for so long...that's truly inspirational. i get this fear that it will always be so hard to stay at a lower weight.
btw, i meant to mention it before but your avatar photo is absolutely stunning...i love the hair style, too!
| QUOTE (Rainy69 @ Sep 21 2007, 02:36 PM) |
| Moofie, we have seen so much success and steady weightloss this summer, and really want it for ourselves. I really know how you feel, and sympathize with you. Yes we are smart and we KNOW that it is most likely water weight, but still the all mighty number is what we care about. Do you rmember when Kjersten was having some weightloss issues early in the summer and was feeling discouraged? We all told her to look at the big picture, and to look at how healthy she was eating. She stuck with it for so long without any losses and sometimes even gaining, so Not it's time for you (me too) to take our own advice and remember that we are being healthy. That scale is killing us, and is in complete control of our lives these days. I finally decided to ignore mine, and I encourage you to do the same for maybe a week. You will know when you are ready to check your weight. I wish you the best today. Your doing great and are, as always, an inspiration. |
take our own advice? what ?? are you nuts??
you are right. this will be a big weekend for me in that way. i am going to just eat like a normal person instead of one addicted to the numbers and living in fear of the scale.
yikes.
September 22, Saturday
no scale, no weigh in. i had my husband put it away somewhere (knowing if i did it, i would eventually give in and take it back out...how weak is that?) and he is under strict instructions to not let me have it back any time before Oct. 1.
it's terrifying because a part of me believes i will just blow up in that time and get back on and find out that all that weight i've lost has come right back.
such a head game i have to overcome.
my focus this weekend is to keep working on incorporating more healthy fats and uping my calories. but i am not going to stress on it and transfer my number obsession from the scale to counting, weighing and focusing on every biteful. i will keep track of carbs for sure, but i am so used to not eating carbs that it's very natural at this point. i can do that in my head.
once i feel like i am more comfortable increasing my calories to a healthy level, i will work on making sure the balance is better...the fat to protein ratio, i guess it's called.
jeez, i hope i can do this. what has happened to me that i've become afraid to eat?
i am just so afraid of regaining the weight. i dont want to fail again. this was to be my last time, my last chance, to actuall live life as a thin person.
no scale, no weigh in. i had my husband put it away somewhere (knowing if i did it, i would eventually give in and take it back out...how weak is that?) and he is under strict instructions to not let me have it back any time before Oct. 1.
it's terrifying because a part of me believes i will just blow up in that time and get back on and find out that all that weight i've lost has come right back.
such a head game i have to overcome.
my focus this weekend is to keep working on incorporating more healthy fats and uping my calories. but i am not going to stress on it and transfer my number obsession from the scale to counting, weighing and focusing on every biteful. i will keep track of carbs for sure, but i am so used to not eating carbs that it's very natural at this point. i can do that in my head.
once i feel like i am more comfortable increasing my calories to a healthy level, i will work on making sure the balance is better...the fat to protein ratio, i guess it's called.
jeez, i hope i can do this. what has happened to me that i've become afraid to eat?
i am just so afraid of regaining the weight. i dont want to fail again. this was to be my last time, my last chance, to actuall live life as a thin person.
Moofie you can do this! And thanks for the compliments. Good start to a new beginning
Hi Moofie!
I understand exactly how you feel. It's taken me about three weeks to get up to 1200 calories and still I don't get there everyday. I think I was headed for an E.D. just being on kimkins for three months. It's getting better though, and it will for you too.
Take care!
ETA: I just read your note about your son being in the Air Force and being sent to Iraq. My youngest son was also in the A.F. and was stationed in United Arab Emirates and was sent to Iraq for one month. He didn't let us know that he was in Iraq until after he came home! He still doesn't talk about it and he's been out for two years. I hope your son is stays safe. When is he going?
I understand exactly how you feel. It's taken me about three weeks to get up to 1200 calories and still I don't get there everyday. I think I was headed for an E.D. just being on kimkins for three months. It's getting better though, and it will for you too.
Take care!
ETA: I just read your note about your son being in the Air Force and being sent to Iraq. My youngest son was also in the A.F. and was stationed in United Arab Emirates and was sent to Iraq for one month. He didn't let us know that he was in Iraq until after he came home! He still doesn't talk about it and he's been out for two years. I hope your son is stays safe. When is he going?
well i took another baby step. i ate steak and eggs for breakfast. whole eggs and red meat. and it was really good.
and i feel so guilty and like i've completely undone all my progress. i wonder when and if those feelings will stop?
now i need to fight the idea that i am not going to eat another thing all day long because i was such a "pig" this morning.
how did i get to this point??
and i feel so guilty and like i've completely undone all my progress. i wonder when and if those feelings will stop?
now i need to fight the idea that i am not going to eat another thing all day long because i was such a "pig" this morning.
how did i get to this point??
| QUOTE (Ginger @ Sep 22 2007, 10:28 AM) |
| Hi Moofie! I understand exactly how you feel. It's taken me about three weeks to get up to 1200 calories and still I don't get there everyday. I think I was headed for an E.D. just being on kimkins for three months. It's getting better though, and it will for you too. Take care! ETA: I just read your note about your son being in the Air Force and being sent to Iraq. My youngest son was also in the A.F. and was stationed in United Arab Emirates and was sent to Iraq for one month. He didn't let us know that he was in Iraq until after he came home! He still doesn't talk about it and he's been out for two years. I hope your son is stays safe. When is he going? |
i think i am seriously walking the line to having an ED. i said to my husband i felt like i was embracing my inner anorexic, finding it so easy to eat as little as possible some times. the power of that control was intoxicating. thankfully i didn't do that regularly, and made myself eat most days...but somedays , almost like a test of my new found willpower, i would just "prove" to myself i could function without eating hardly at all. how messed up is that?
my son is leaving next month after a training session in germany. he will be gone for six - ten months. he does base and prison camp security, so he is - in relative terms - in a safer position than alot of our soliders there. that gives me some peace of mind...but not alot! i am glad your son is out of there safely. my son is in the AF until 2010, and possibly longer. he's always wanted to be in the AF since he was a little boy, so he toys with the possibility of USAF career. but he is not committing to that until after iraq because he knows that changes a person. he's seen it in many of his buddies. the last USAF soldier killed was from my son's base - he only knew him as an acquaintance, but it still really shook them all up.
thanks for the words of encouragement. i feel kinda stupid, really, that this whole "diet" thing has me all rattled and unsure of myself. i've never been like this. i really am a strong person!
| QUOTE (moofie @ Sep 22 2007, 02:55 PM) |
| thanks for the words of encouragement. i feel kinda stupid, really, that this whole "diet" thing has me all rattled and unsure of myself. i've never been like this. i really am a strong person! |
I know what you mean Moofie. I thought I was really intelligent and strong too, but we got taken girl! She's a very smart con woman who knows exactly what to say.
I don't feel bad eating like I did right after kimkins. It takes awhile but once you see that the weight can still come off by eating, you will feel more comfortable.
You're doing great Rene and Ginger! KEEP THE FAITH and DON'T GIVE UP HOPE!
Moofie, I can't tell you of how very proud I am of you. I think that you have saved youself from a very frightening future, and I feel like we are still on the same kind of weight loss adventure that we were on in June. Now we are doing it right
I feel like I'm on top of the world right now, because our friendship didn't suffer with the kk business. Is it Aretha Franklin who sang 'I will survive'. Well Moffie that's us
I feel like I'm on top of the world right now, because our friendship didn't suffer with the kk business. Is it Aretha Franklin who sang 'I will survive'. Well Moffie that's us
| QUOTE (Ginger @ Sep 22 2007, 02:35 PM) |
| I know what you mean Moofie. I thought I was really intelligent and strong too, but we got taken girl! She's a very smart con woman who knows exactly what to say. I don't feel bad eating like I did right after kimkins. It takes awhile but once you see that the weight can still come off by eating, you will feel more comfortable. |
i dont really blame kimkins for the most part. i know more than a few who use the program and dont take it to extremes, and are using it successfully and are doing it healthy. i think there is alot of merit to the basics of the program. at the very least, i am so grateful to it for allowing me to detox from all the garbage i was putting into my body, and to give me the willpower to start to see i can live without it.
but it's a bad combination with myself. i have an addictive personality. i come from a long line of addicts - drugs, alcohol, food - and food was my drug of choice. i used food like a drug most of my life. so i transferred that addiction to "no food." thus, for people like me, KK is a dangerous venture. but for others, who do not have this predisposition, i believe it can be a good one.
however, having said that...alot, if not most, people who end up severely obese, do have addictive personalities --kinda why they end up that way. so the program can be dangerous for alot of us. you do have to be aware and monitor yourself.
i am going to hold onto your words that it becomes more comfortable over time and that i can let go of these fears and find a more healthy relationship with food and it's role in my life. one thing kk did do for me is give me the confidence to believe that i can win against obesity, and i am grateful for that. i will view it as the first stepping stone on the journey.
| QUOTE (Rainy69 @ Sep 23 2007, 01:12 AM) |
| I feel like I'm on top of the world right now, because our friendship didn't suffer with the kk business. Is it Aretha Franklin who sang 'I will survive'. Well Moffie that's us |
lorraine,
i hope our friendship hasn't suffered...nor mine with any of our other kk sisters after my announcement. it wasn't an easy decision to make, ya know? yes, i know you do.
you and i are alot alike, so i value our friendship so much because i know you understand alot of where i am coming from. i couldnt' do this without you.
i am still counting on meeting next summer so i can hug you in person
| QUOTE (livinlowcarbman @ Sep 22 2007, 03:33 PM) |
| You're doing great Rene and Ginger! KEEP THE FAITH and DON'T GIVE UP HOPE! |
oh, jimmy...i can't give up hope. what is the alternative? i dont ever want to go back to where i was - 50lbs heavier and truly out of hope. i deserve a chance to live life to the fullest.
my goal, after visiting North and South Carolina this past summer, is to be able to return and climb that damned mountain trail (chimney rock, i believe it was) that i was only able to make halfway cus i was so out of shape. i am going to do it!
If and when that day comes, Rene, let me know and I'll go climb that mountain trail with you. Deal?
| QUOTE (livinlowcarbman @ Sep 23 2007, 12:33 PM) |
| If and when that day comes, Rene, let me know and I'll go climb that mountain trail with you. Deal? |
deal...i would be honored!
Cool! We'll be watching your progress and look forward to the hike. Can you keep up? You will by then, I'm sure! 
Sunday, Sept. 23
i am still struggling to eat enough. here i've finally gotten to the point where i dont just eat, and only eat when i am hungry, stop when i am satisfied...only to find out i am never hungry and could be completely satisfied never eating. so now i am forcing myself to eat, and it's hard, and i am not enjoying it.
i started putting things into fitday again because i am so skewed in what i think is enough. i am so full after lunch that i think i must have eaten so much already today that i shoudln't eat for a week...and reality is i've only had about half the calories that i should. at least the fat numbers are up, though...thanks to the burger i just had and the real salad dressing. and oh, the guilt....
but i dont know how i will choke down any dinner tonight cus i am mentally and physically stuffed. gawd, does this make any sense to anyone cus i really feel messed up.
one meal at a time, one day at a time....
thanks for listening.
i am still struggling to eat enough. here i've finally gotten to the point where i dont just eat, and only eat when i am hungry, stop when i am satisfied...only to find out i am never hungry and could be completely satisfied never eating. so now i am forcing myself to eat, and it's hard, and i am not enjoying it.
i started putting things into fitday again because i am so skewed in what i think is enough. i am so full after lunch that i think i must have eaten so much already today that i shoudln't eat for a week...and reality is i've only had about half the calories that i should. at least the fat numbers are up, though...thanks to the burger i just had and the real salad dressing. and oh, the guilt....
but i dont know how i will choke down any dinner tonight cus i am mentally and physically stuffed. gawd, does this make any sense to anyone cus i really feel messed up.
one meal at a time, one day at a time....
thanks for listening.
Hi Rene,
I thought I would come over and see you as i miss seeing your lovely face I'm glad to have found your journal, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I may start one too, see how i feel once I snoop around some ...
...Pam...
I thought I would come over and see you as i miss seeing your lovely face
I'm glad to have found your journal, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I may start one too, see how i feel once I snoop around some ... ...Pam...
Hi Rene, Lorraine, and Pambo!
Hi Jimmy!
Rene, I'm so proud of you for listening to your inner voice that was telling you that you were starting to head down a dangerous path, and for doing something about it. If anythng I love you even more for having moved over here from KK. It took a lot of guts and courage. Of course I support you 100%. As soon as I have time, I'll start a journal here too. In the meantime I will hang out with you and Lorraine!
I hope your weekend is going well.
((big hugs)) from Kjersten
Hi Jimmy!
Rene, I'm so proud of you for listening to your inner voice that was telling you that you were starting to head down a dangerous path, and for doing something about it. If anythng I love you even more for having moved over here from KK. It took a lot of guts and courage. Of course I support you 100%. As soon as I have time, I'll start a journal here too. In the meantime I will hang out with you and Lorraine!
I hope your weekend is going well.
((big hugs)) from Kjersten
Snoop away, Pam! It's good to have you here. Did you like your name change, Kjersten?
Did you like your name change, Kjersten?
| QUOTE (pambo @ Sep 23 2007, 02:49 PM) |
| Hi Rene, I thought I would come over and see you as i miss seeing your lovely face I'm glad to have found your journal, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I may start one too, see how i feel once I snoop around some ... ...Pam... |
((((pam)))) thank you for visiting and i hope you will find it comfortable enough to stay -- or at least visit regularly so we can stay in contact!
| QUOTE (mme kj @ Sep 23 2007, 03:25 PM) |
| Hi Rene, Lorraine, and Pambo! Hi Jimmy! Rene, I'm so proud of you for listening to your inner voice that was telling you that you were starting to head down a dangerous path, and for doing something about it. If anythng I love you even more for having moved over here from KK. It took a lot of guts and courage. Of course I support you 100%. As soon as I have time, I'll start a journal here too. In the meantime I will hang out with you and Lorraine! I hope your weekend is going well. ((big hugs)) from Kjersten |
((((kjersten))))) thank you for understanding and for being there...and here
Hi Moofie!
I know it's hard to eat when you feel like you shouldn't but, believe me, it will all fall into place soon. I actually ate over 1300 calories today!!! After going three months eating no more than 400 calories a day, this is quite something. Keep adding a little fat and you will find it gets easier, I promise.
I know it's hard to eat when you feel like you shouldn't but, believe me, it will all fall into place soon. I actually ate over 1300 calories today!!! After going three months eating no more than 400 calories a day, this is quite something. Keep adding a little fat and you will find it gets easier, I promise.
September 24
i ate a full meal tonight. it was probably the first complete meal i've eaten in MONTHS. i had a double cheeseburger (sans bun - and they were thin patties) and a small salad wiht real dressing. and i ate it ALL, and i enjoyed it. i have only suffered slight guilt and mild anxiety following the meal.
i haven't had a cheeseburger in forever and i'd forgotten how much i enjoyed them.
small step, but i think it was an important one for myself. i really had to force myself to eat this morning and even at lunch, when i should have been hungry..normal people get hungry at lunch! but tonight, i felt hunger and that was a good sign...so i ate. not just nibbled a few bites, but ate a real meal.
who would have thought that would ever have become an issue for me?
i ate a full meal tonight. it was probably the first complete meal i've eaten in MONTHS. i had a double cheeseburger (sans bun - and they were thin patties) and a small salad wiht real dressing. and i ate it ALL, and i enjoyed it. i have only suffered slight guilt and mild anxiety following the meal.
i haven't had a cheeseburger in forever and i'd forgotten how much i enjoyed them.
small step, but i think it was an important one for myself. i really had to force myself to eat this morning and even at lunch, when i should have been hungry..normal people get hungry at lunch! but tonight, i felt hunger and that was a good sign...so i ate. not just nibbled a few bites, but ate a real meal.
who would have thought that would ever have become an issue for me?
| QUOTE (Ginger @ Sep 23 2007, 08:32 PM) |
| Hi Moofie! I know it's hard to eat when you feel like you shouldn't but, believe me, it will all fall into place soon. I actually ate over 1300 calories today!!! After going three months eating no more than 400 calories a day, this is quite something. Keep adding a little fat and you will find it gets easier, I promise. |
thanks for the encouragements, ginger. every little bit helps. i feel like i've turned a corner tonight after eating a full meal, so hopefully each day will be a little easier.
i put my day's food into fitday to kinda see how i've been doing. since we ate out i had to approximate the weights, etc but i think i came pretty close. i've gotten pretty good at estimating portions. i am still unsure about the ratios on atkins, so can someone tell me if this is coming close to what is expected?
1332 calories
59% fat (83 grams)
35% protein (109 g)
6% carbs (18 g)
i will be honest..those numbers horrify me. i feel like i've eaten way, way too much and will pay for it. as good as that cheeseburger was for dinner, the high calories don't make me happy. i also see the carbs are getting close to being too high - that was from the eggs (poached for breakfast, egg salad for lunch).
other than that, how does it look? what shoudl i change or try to in/decrease?
1332 calories
59% fat (83 grams)
35% protein (109 g)
6% carbs (18 g)
i will be honest..those numbers horrify me. i feel like i've eaten way, way too much and will pay for it. as good as that cheeseburger was for dinner, the high calories don't make me happy. i also see the carbs are getting close to being too high - that was from the eggs (poached for breakfast, egg salad for lunch).
other than that, how does it look? what shoudl i change or try to in/decrease?
Sept. 25
i just read about christin. and my prayers and positive thoughts are added to the group for her health. she's so young, i am just sick thinking about the fact that she could have damaged herself with that way of eating. and my thoughts and prayers are with deni, too, who is also worried about the same. thank god they both are being seen by doctors, and may there be no long lasting effects. it seems so unfair...all they wanted to do was succeed at shedding those unwanted lbs. like all of us.
and if that doesn't slap my face into a major wake up call about needing to let go of the KK way of eating, i dont know what ever could. they are both much younger, much healthier than i am. my body wouldn't handle the stress and deprivation nearly as long as theirs have. so enough is enough, KK is a thought of the past. losing weight that fast isn't worth it.
please add your prayers and positive thoughts for those two young, beautiful, caring women.
i just read about christin. and my prayers and positive thoughts are added to the group for her health. she's so young, i am just sick thinking about the fact that she could have damaged herself with that way of eating. and my thoughts and prayers are with deni, too, who is also worried about the same. thank god they both are being seen by doctors, and may there be no long lasting effects. it seems so unfair...all they wanted to do was succeed at shedding those unwanted lbs. like all of us.
and if that doesn't slap my face into a major wake up call about needing to let go of the KK way of eating, i dont know what ever could. they are both much younger, much healthier than i am. my body wouldn't handle the stress and deprivation nearly as long as theirs have. so enough is enough, KK is a thought of the past. losing weight that fast isn't worth it.
please add your prayers and positive thoughts for those two young, beautiful, caring women.
Rene, your menu and ratios look OUTSTANDING!!! It's time to get out of fear-mode and into living-mode. You're doing GREAT and I'm so proud of you for doing it. KEEP IT UP!
Moofie, you are doing so well, and to see you eating those calories is a wonderful sign. It surprises me how important you all are to me, and to see you make healthy choices like these are such a relief.
Of course I plan to get together next summer. I can't wait to see you and hug you with you skinny little ass you know, LOL. The holliday is one of those things that helps me keep going on the rough days. Hopefully we'll have lots of hair too
Of course I plan to get together next summer. I can't wait to see you and hug you with you skinny little ass you know, LOL. The holliday is one of those things that helps me keep going on the rough days. Hopefully we'll have lots of hair too
((Pam)) I was so surprised to see you on here and I actually and truthfully had to take a peek and make sure we were on Jimmy's forum. Now thats too funny. It's not that I thought you wouldn't come to visit, it's just that you didn't mention it at KK (as far as I remember). I'm really happy to see you here. And guess what it feels so much happier here. Almost like when we all started in June.
I hope that you take plenty of time to look around here. So many of our KK favorites are here and it is great to see their posts. I feel so comfortable with my friends and my inspirations near by. Have a great day
I hope that you take plenty of time to look around here. So many of our KK favorites are here and it is great to see their posts. I feel so comfortable with my friends and my inspirations near by. Have a great day
Mme Kjersten, I love that. I can't wait for your journal too. Until then I look forward to seeing your posts elsewhere. Have a great day at school. BTW, how is it going now with your new traffic light plan?
have a great day.
have a great day.
Jimmy, it's no wonder you are doing so well here. It's great to see that you take the time to visit everyone and send warm wishes out. It's so comforting to get this kind of encouragement is a big way. Thank you.
I try, Rainy! It's wearing me out, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
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